Recommend addition/removal of words
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@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insult@betterlate1-0 I will play anything for points that has a j, f, c, k, t, whatever. once, I have abstained from playing nazi and trump
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@betterlate1-0 I will play anything for points that has a j, f, c, k, t, whatever. once, I have abstained from playing nazi and trump
@haftoplay All choices, I just know if I do not use them I do not have to apologize.
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Totally agree, It used to be in OSPD. I am looking now in 3 or 4 dictionaries and see the definition that is derogatory but no longer used in OSPD. I think removing it would be great however, then you get into censorship and removal of a variety of words that I would not use in a game..so I don't normally use jew either. Have to get used to the idea some will use it and like other words, there is no need to use them
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@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insultNahma Nadich (deputy director of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Boston):
"I have a hard time seeing “goy” as anything but offensive. In my day job I often find it necessary to distinguish between Jews and non-Jews, as in “What it’s like to be a non-Jewish counselor at a Jewish summer camp” or “In Moscow, a non-Jewish physicist recalls helping build the Soviet Union’s only yeshiva.”
But the word “goy” has too much historical and linguistic baggage to be used as casually as “non-Jew” or “gentile.” It starts with the obvious slurs – like “goyishe kopf,” or gentile brains, which suggests (generously) a dullard, or “shikker iz a goy,” a gentile is a drunkard. “Goyishe naches” describes the kinds of things that a Jew mockingly presumes only a gentile would enjoy, like hunting, sailing and eating white bread."
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Nahma Nadich (deputy director of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Boston):
"I have a hard time seeing “goy” as anything but offensive. In my day job I often find it necessary to distinguish between Jews and non-Jews, as in “What it’s like to be a non-Jewish counselor at a Jewish summer camp” or “In Moscow, a non-Jewish physicist recalls helping build the Soviet Union’s only yeshiva.”
But the word “goy” has too much historical and linguistic baggage to be used as casually as “non-Jew” or “gentile.” It starts with the obvious slurs – like “goyishe kopf,” or gentile brains, which suggests (generously) a dullard, or “shikker iz a goy,” a gentile is a drunkard. “Goyishe naches” describes the kinds of things that a Jew mockingly presumes only a gentile would enjoy, like hunting, sailing and eating white bread."
@mistertoad said in Please remove the word 'jew':
Nahma Nadich
Being Jewish I have never seen or heard anyone use the word goy as to mean anything other than a Gentile. But, okay still choices to use or not. Jew is Jewish, jew is stereotype that all Jews are cheap. -
I could be wrong, but it's not Lexulous who besides the words right? These are determined by certain player associations so it will depend on what list we pick right? Or does Lexulous have its own set of dictionaries?
@pangloss said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
I could be wrong, but it's not Lexulous who besides the words right? These are determined by certain player associations so it will depend on what list we pick right? Or does Lexulous have its own set of dictionaries?
This question doesn't appear to have been answered, and I still have it. Is Lexulous modifying standard word lists or not? If it isn't, what's the point of this forum section? Thanks.
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@zoso-thezephead That's true. When the word is lowercased, it can have a derogatory meaning: to "jew" someone is to be extremely selfish in a financial transaction, tapping into the racist trope that Jews are, as a race, venal and primarily concerned with making money, perhaps taking advantage.
I note that "fag" is not allowed here, even though it can mean "cigarette." So, I see inconsistency in allowing one pejorative term (lowercase "jew") but not another (fag > homosexual).
@lolamoth Absolutely YES.
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@betterlate1 I am a Jew; my faith. It doesn't always mean swindle.
@bestofgdo So am I and that word was used many times in a derogatory manner when I was young and I don't need reminding about it.
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It is a simple noun - a person who is Jewish is a Jew. I don't think it is inherently derogatory although used that way by some.
Lots of words that are used derogatorily are in Lex (SOWPODS). I agree it feels weird to play them, but - it's a word game.@jsm Jew is not derogatory, jew is,
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@jsm Jew is not derogatory, jew is,
@betterlate1-0 You are taking offence when it isn't given.
This is the new hobby of Americans as they/you don't have anything other than first world problems to groan about.
It is ultimately people like you, with your attitude, that makes things worse.
Nobody that I have seen in this website is interested in discrimination at all.
But as I have mentioned before, you are a troll, and this type of conversation is not welcome here. We play a game, we are not politicians or popes.
If this game is too intense for you, then I really don't know what a softer option is.
There is no two state solution in scrabble, only better play. -
KLONG is not a word, how can you expect it to be played, and it be fair play
@carolyn-leverich-atkinson, I believe that the UK version of Lexulous now uses Collins Dictionary as the arbiter of acceptable words. And, unless they have changed in the last few months, it is known as CSW19 -- Collins Scrabble Words, 19th edition (or something).
Lexulous used to use SOWPODS. An improperly formed acronym of OWL and OSPD developed by the Scrabble (TM) people to be used for UK play of Scrabble. I thought it imperfect, but it is the gold standard compared to the CSW. (I will explain what those acronyms are for anyone who does not know them, or they can be looked up.)
Here is a recent example of how ridiculous it has become ZE is a valid "word" in CSW19 and hence, Lexulous. Paraphrasing, it is defined by Collins as 'indicative of an accent, usually french. As in "going to ze store" '.
It is things such as this that caused me to go to "forget about trying to learn the valid words for play" and "go for the strategic aspects of the game".
based on the silliness of including "ZE", i do expect that a two letter V word is not far away. Possibly "VA" as a particle of "VA VA VOOM" -
@James-Lafargue I could not find it in the official Scrabble dictionary
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I used the 2-letter word "CH" in the last few days. Now it is no longer in the lists. Did I miss something?
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I used the 2-letter word "CH" in the last few days. Now it is no longer in the lists. Did I miss something?
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@mistertoad I used it in UK play today
@sparks
Thanks for the quick reply. Here is my Lexulous list. I cannot use 'CH'!
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@sparks
Thanks for the quick reply. Here is my Lexulous list. I cannot use 'CH'!As Kenneth Williams said in 'Carry On Cleo':
"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!" -
As Kenneth Williams said in 'Carry On Cleo':
"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!"@mistertoad
I am happy to report that 'CH' has now returned to my list. Strange! -
@mistertoad
I am happy to report that 'CH' has now returned to my list. Strange!@mistertoad Ch Ch Ch Ch Changes....
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Pix is acceptable (for pictures), but vax is not acceptable for vaccine, not tix for tickets. This is not consistent.
@roslyn-irvine Pix has been used for years, vax is not widely used and tix is internet shortcut not commonly used. Possibility exists that as "words" are more widely used next time the dictionary updates they would include them
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@lolamoth Actually, "fag" is valid, in the US dictionary at least.
I have spoken to some Jewish people on here about the 'jew' issue, and most of them said if they have the letters they will play 'jew'.
What is more amazing to me is that the N-word is in the US dictionary!
@zaph fag can be a cigarette and also bundle of twigs
