Recommend addition/removal of words
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My opponent played the word NORTENNAS, which the Lexulous dictionary says is invalid. He got 79 points and I’m not happy. How can this be corrected?
@tammy-allen-hartsfield said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
My opponent played the word NORTENNAS, which the Lexulous dictionary says is invalid. He got 79 points and I’m not happy. How can this be corrected?
Are you sure he didn't play NORTENAS, which is accepted? I suspect this is what may have happened. If not, a screenshot would be helpful in determining that the error actually did occur and in what context.
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@tammy-allen-hartsfield said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
My opponent played the word NORTENNAS, which the Lexulous dictionary says is invalid. He got 79 points and I’m not happy. How can this be corrected?
Are you sure he didn't play NORTENAS, which is accepted? I suspect this is what may have happened. If not, a screenshot would be helpful in determining that the error actually did occur and in what context.
@roymccoy Must have been the word nortenas (one 'n' not two), which would be the plural form of nortena (definition: an inhabitant or native of northern Mexico). It's legit.
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@roymccoy Must have been the word nortenas (one 'n' not two), which would be the plural form of nortena (definition: an inhabitant or native of northern Mexico). It's legit.
@rikki-bates said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
@roymccoy Must have been the word nortenas (one 'n' not two), which would be the plural form of nortena (definition: an inhabitant or native of northern Mexico). It's legit.
You agree as to this likelihood, then. I don't approve of this inclusion, as ñ is a different letter in Spanish and I don't think Lexulous should allow e.g. senor or manana either. But it does, and if a word's accepted that's what counts in the game.
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@tammy-allen-hartsfield said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
My opponent played the word NORTENNAS, which the Lexulous dictionary says is invalid. He got 79 points and I’m not happy. How can this be corrected?
Are you sure he didn't play NORTENAS, which is accepted? I suspect this is what may have happened. If not, a screenshot would be helpful in determining that the error actually did occur and in what context.
@roymccoy yes, you are correct. I misread it. Thank you.
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@rikki-bates said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
@roymccoy Must have been the word nortenas (one 'n' not two), which would be the plural form of nortena (definition: an inhabitant or native of northern Mexico). It's legit.
You agree as to this likelihood, then. I don't approve of this inclusion, as ñ is a different letter in Spanish and I don't think Lexulous should allow e.g. senor or manana either. But it does, and if a word's accepted that's what counts in the game.
@roymccoy
You're opening a can of worms (or in Mistertoad's case, maybe a barrel of frogs)
Although MW accepts both senor and manana ...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/senor
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manana... It has the tilde in mañana but NOT the one in señor ie it accepts senor but not mañana! Go figure.
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@roymccoy
You're opening a can of worms (or in Mistertoad's case, maybe a barrel of frogs)Although MW accepts both senor and manana ...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/senor
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manana... It has the tilde in mañana but NOT the one in señor ie it accepts senor but not mañana! Go figure.
@mistertoad said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
... It has the tilde in mañana but NOT the one in señor ie it accepts senor but not mañana! Go figure.
I figure MW screwed up (on SENOR, not MAÑANA).
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@roymccoy
You're opening a can of worms (or in Mistertoad's case, maybe a barrel of frogs)Although MW accepts both senor and manana ...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/senor
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manana... It has the tilde in mañana but NOT the one in señor ie it accepts senor but not mañana! Go figure.
@rikki-bates yes, that’s correct. Thank you.
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@mistertoad said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
... It has the tilde in mañana but NOT the one in señor ie it accepts senor but not mañana! Go figure.
I figure MW screwed up (on SENOR, not MAÑANA).
@roymccoy said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
@mistertoad said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
... It has the tilde in mañana but NOT the one in señor ie it accepts senor but not mañana! Go figure.
I figure MW screwed up (on SENOR, not MAÑANA).
I'm no linguist, but I would bet English has borrowed many words from other languages and left the accent marks behind.
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@roymccoy said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
@mistertoad said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
... It has the tilde in mañana but NOT the one in señor ie it accepts senor but not mañana! Go figure.
I figure MW screwed up (on SENOR, not MAÑANA).
I'm no linguist, but I would bet English has borrowed many words from other languages and left the accent marks behind.
Déjà vu?@anexparrot said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
I'm no linguist, but I would bet English has borrowed many words from other languages and left the accent marks behind.
Déjà vu?You don't need to be a linguist to know that. It doesn't justify wholesale abandonment in every case, however. Many accents are properly retained, and these should include the tilde in Spanish ñ. See e.g. http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Senor. I'm suppose MW is being "descriptive" in response to people's being too lazy or illiterate to type the ñ on their phones.
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@roymccoy PATTY-PHYSICAL is hyphenated. I looked it up on Wiki.
@sillypsybin never assume if you see it on Wiki it is real
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@jd-scott no rule says you have to use those words, they are disgusting but they are legal words and if you remove them, some one might be more offended by the word white or pink or purple. Self censor is best censor.
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@jd-scott said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
Please get rid of JEW, JEWED, and SPIC. Plus, any other slurs that I haven't seen yet.
Of course there are many words which are offensive. However they do exist and they do appear in the dictionaries on which Scrabble games are based.
For example, if I am called a "Grammar Nazi" then the word 'Nazi' is being referenced to mean that I am too fussy about grammar rules and not with the intention of suggesting that I was a "Nazi" or behaving like one. In that case I should not complain about the word "Nazi" being used nor would I expect the word "Nazi" to be expunged when it is only being used as to say that I am excessively obsessed with the minutae of grammar rules. Context is all.
This whole subject has been debated in these forums many times and, basically, the conclusion was that, if a word appears in the dictionaries, then it can be used in Lexulous - no matter how offensive it may be. Commentators have suggested that complaints may be directed to those who compile the dictionaries themselves rather than to websites who merely reference their entries.
For interest, you might like to look at the Urban Dictionary website:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/. Offensive some of the entries may be yet free speech is of paramount important. You may come away feeling that many entries are discussed rationally, humorously and intelligently. I would naturally welcome further debate if you so wish. I hope none of this spoils your enjoyment of this website which gives so much pleasure to so many people. -
@jd-scott said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
Please get rid of JEW, JEWED, and SPIC. Plus, any other slurs that I haven't seen yet.
Of course there are many words which are offensive. However they do exist and they do appear in the dictionaries on which Scrabble games are based.
For example, if I am called a "Grammar Nazi" then the word 'Nazi' is being referenced to mean that I am too fussy about grammar rules and not with the intention of suggesting that I was a "Nazi" or behaving like one. In that case I should not complain about the word "Nazi" being used nor would I expect the word "Nazi" to be expunged when it is only being used as to say that I am excessively obsessed with the minutae of grammar rules. Context is all.
This whole subject has been debated in these forums many times and, basically, the conclusion was that, if a word appears in the dictionaries, then it can be used in Lexulous - no matter how offensive it may be. Commentators have suggested that complaints may be directed to those who compile the dictionaries themselves rather than to websites who merely reference their entries.
For interest, you might like to look at the Urban Dictionary website:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/. Offensive some of the entries may be yet free speech is of paramount important. You may come away feeling that many entries are discussed rationally, humorously and intelligently. I would naturally welcome further debate if you so wish. I hope none of this spoils your enjoyment of this website which gives so much pleasure to so many people.@mistertoad I've said this before and I see this topic often discussed. I could be wrong, but I don't think the word lists are defined by the people who run Lexulous. There are two primary word lists Sowpods ("UK") and TWL ("US"). If there's a gripe with a word, you should probably contact the people who create these lists.
Edit - NASPA Word List (NWL) -
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@Carolyn-Leverich-Atkinson Favala is not valid, in which puzzle number did you find this acceptable?
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You may use this topic for recommending words to be added/removed from the Lexulous Word Lists.
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@lexulous Please add “paleo” to the word list. It is listed in Merriam-Webster in both capitalized and uncapitalized form. Thanks.
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