Recommend addition/removal of words
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This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.
@zoso-thezephead Where to start, and where will it end.
I think more likely that the word in the current climate would be removed because it is offensive to most of the world who has predominantly sided with Palestine. -
This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.
Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!
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Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!
@roymccoy you do not have to use any of those words it is a choice you make. You also do not have to play those with a vocabulary that is that limited
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Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!
@roymccoy I think you are missing the spirit of the game.
It has never been about word quality, judgement or semantics.
it is based purely on word lists, we have words in our language/s that are not nice ones, but they are there. Excluding and censoring then MAKES the game about more than words, and that has never been the game I want to play.
I play with no intent or malice or subtext. I play for fun.
Words will never hurt me. -
@roymccoy you do not have to use any of those words it is a choice you make. You also do not have to play those with a vocabulary that is that limited
@betterlate1-0
My sarcasm was apparently too subtle for you. To my knowledge Lexulous doesn't make or maintain the dictionaries it uses, and I'm surprised not to have seen that mentioned. Or, actually, I'm not surprised, since I didn't read the other replies. -
@roymccoy I think you are missing the spirit of the game.
It has never been about word quality, judgement or semantics.
it is based purely on word lists, we have words in our language/s that are not nice ones, but they are there. Excluding and censoring then MAKES the game about more than words, and that has never been the game I want to play.
I play with no intent or malice or subtext. I play for fun.
Words will never hurt me. -
@roymccoy hi, yeah I kinda wondered, im the one that should be sorry. you just never know in this place
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@betterlate1-0
My sarcasm was apparently too subtle for you. To my knowledge Lexulous doesn't make or maintain the dictionaries it uses, and I'm surprised not to have seen that mentioned. Or, actually, I'm not surprised, since I didn't read the other replies.@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insult -
@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insult -
Are you all serious?
I'm a jew. And a Jew, and am Jewish.
I have no problem being a jew.
And have no problem being called a jew, as you can see, I call myself a jew.
I don't find it derogatory in any way whatsoever, and think this entire conversation is ridiculous, sorry.
The world is out of control with "political correctness" lately. Every time I turn around, it's something new that has now been deemed "offensive" for whatever reason. It's like people sit around & think of new ways to get offended, because being offended by something is the new "in" thing.
ANYTHING can be used in a derogatory manner.
But by your logic, "Jew" is okay, "jew" is not.
So how do you convey that in a verbal conversation?
You referred to yourself as a "Jew". So if you're having a verbal conversation with someone, you would verbally say "I am a capital J Jew" - just so they were clear you weren't saying you were a "lowercase j jew"?
So you'd have no problem with someone calling you a Jew, as long as they said "hey you capital letter J Jew". Just to be CLEAR.
Sorry - but lmjaoI could say I find it offensive that you get to speak for people you don't even know, "I will keep this simple. As a Jew the word is offensive to myself and other Jews. Clear?"
How do you know what is offensive to other Jews, jews, or Jewish people?
Do you know them all?
Have you polled the ones that you do know, and asked them if this specifically offends them?
So I am to assume that if someone plays the word jew, it would offend you? What would be the reason that would offend you?
Because you feel that they are not just using the letters in a word GAME, but using this medium an excuse to call you a swindler?So if someone plays the word "bitch", should I immediately be offended & assume that they are calling me a bitch? Even though the only actual definition in the dictionary is that of a female dog? The other definitions are "slang", but derogatory.
So as a woman, should I demand bitch be removed from the game?
Well heck, while we're at it - how about if someone plays the word "colored" which literally means something that has color, but can also have derogatory meanings. Should we have them remove that word as well, because it might be offensive to black people?
We could go on with this forever, until there are what, 100 words left? (until someone steps up & says one offends them, then 99)But what if - and just a what if - a person playing the GAME has those letters in their tray, and plays them just to PLAY them & gain points (which is ultimately the objective I believe). I don't think they chose those letters to deliberately insult the other player.
If you had 3 letters left in your tray, "j" "e" "w", and you could place them just right, with triple letters, a triple word, making 3 more words & would get like 125 points for "jew", or you could just play "ew" for 6, you can say with 100% honesty, that you'd play the 6, just not to use a lowercase word "jew" in a word GAME?
OMG - seriously, think about it. This is a GAME.
If you don't like it, guess what - you don't have to play it.@sanctuarie You are Jewish and a Jew .if you are a cheapskate and want to demean yourself or others you say jew
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I know this is a serious thread but I had to laugh over something the owners of our beautiful game said on the subject recently.
It seems that more than 200 dictionary words have been removed from the Scrabble lexicon in the past year or so by Scrabble's board game owners, Mattel. A spokesman said:
"I’ve heard the argument that these are just words, but we believe they have meaning."
Er, yes. Quite so!
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@betternever1-0
The dictionaries are the dictionaries. I eschew linguistic or sociological discussions here, and I play to get the higher score and win rather than to be morally praiseworthy or politically correct.@roymccoy gees how many names do you have?
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The word "Medias" was allowed, and defined as the plural form of "media" . "Media" ITSELF is the plural form of "medium", is it not????? I believe you should remove "medias" from the list of acceptable words.
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I know this is a serious thread but I had to laugh over something the owners of our beautiful game said on the subject recently.
It seems that more than 200 dictionary words have been removed from the Scrabble lexicon in the past year or so by Scrabble's board game owners, Mattel. A spokesman said:
"I’ve heard the argument that these are just words, but we believe they have meaning."
Er, yes. Quite so!
I can't upvote this, but thanks for posting it.
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@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insult@betterlate1-0 I will play anything for points that has a j, f, c, k, t, whatever. once, I have abstained from playing nazi and trump
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@betterlate1-0 I will play anything for points that has a j, f, c, k, t, whatever. once, I have abstained from playing nazi and trump
@haftoplay All choices, I just know if I do not use them I do not have to apologize.
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Totally agree, It used to be in OSPD. I am looking now in 3 or 4 dictionaries and see the definition that is derogatory but no longer used in OSPD. I think removing it would be great however, then you get into censorship and removal of a variety of words that I would not use in a game..so I don't normally use jew either. Have to get used to the idea some will use it and like other words, there is no need to use them
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@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insultNahma Nadich (deputy director of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Boston):
"I have a hard time seeing “goy” as anything but offensive. In my day job I often find it necessary to distinguish between Jews and non-Jews, as in “What it’s like to be a non-Jewish counselor at a Jewish summer camp” or “In Moscow, a non-Jewish physicist recalls helping build the Soviet Union’s only yeshiva.”
But the word “goy” has too much historical and linguistic baggage to be used as casually as “non-Jew” or “gentile.” It starts with the obvious slurs – like “goyishe kopf,” or gentile brains, which suggests (generously) a dullard, or “shikker iz a goy,” a gentile is a drunkard. “Goyishe naches” describes the kinds of things that a Jew mockingly presumes only a gentile would enjoy, like hunting, sailing and eating white bread."
