Recommend addition/removal of words
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This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.
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I have played this word, albeit with some discomfort considering my family tree. Seeing this Topic in the Forum, I decided to look it up in the dictionary. Although it can be used pejoratively, if you look it up in Merriam-Webster you will see four definitions, none pejorative. So, use it in good health, just nonpejoratively!
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I have played this word, albeit with some discomfort considering my family tree. Seeing this Topic in the Forum, I decided to look it up in the dictionary. Although it can be used pejoratively, if you look it up in Merriam-Webster you will see four definitions, none pejorative. So, use it in good health, just nonpejoratively!
@b-birney you cant remove thousands of years of it being a derogatory word and used in a derogatory manner ...even if remove it from the dictionary
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@jsm said in Please remove the word 'jew':
It is a simple noun - a person who is Jewish is a Jew. I don't think it is inherently derogatory although used that way by some.
Lots of words that are used derogatorily are in Lex (SOWPODS). I agree it feels weird to play them, but - it's a word game.Your description makes it a pronoun. Following your logic I should then be able to play Christian, Hindu or Muslim. Note the words all start with a capital letter.
@zoso-thezephead That's true. When the word is lowercased, it can have a derogatory meaning: to "jew" someone is to be extremely selfish in a financial transaction, tapping into the racist trope that Jews are, as a race, venal and primarily concerned with making money, perhaps taking advantage.
I note that "fag" is not allowed here, even though it can mean "cigarette." So, I see inconsistency in allowing one pejorative term (lowercase "jew") but not another (fag > homosexual).
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You may use this topic for recommending words to be added/removed from the Lexulous Word Lists.
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Pix is acceptable (for pictures), but vax is not acceptable for vaccine, not tix for tickets. This is not consistent.
@roslyn-irvine Vax, Pix, and TIx all work in the UK dictionary here.
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Pix is acceptable (for pictures), but vax is not acceptable for vaccine, not tix for tickets. This is not consistent.
@roslyn-irvine Hi, depends which version of the dictionary you are using and which version of the game as to what is good or not
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@zoso-thezephead That's true. When the word is lowercased, it can have a derogatory meaning: to "jew" someone is to be extremely selfish in a financial transaction, tapping into the racist trope that Jews are, as a race, venal and primarily concerned with making money, perhaps taking advantage.
I note that "fag" is not allowed here, even though it can mean "cigarette." So, I see inconsistency in allowing one pejorative term (lowercase "jew") but not another (fag > homosexual).
@lolamoth
As a 'goy' (perjoritive?!) myself, I found this excellent article from a site described as "Jewish. Fearless. Since 1897", thus:
https://forward.com/life/380684/goyim-origin-goy-usage/ -
@zoso-thezephead That's true. When the word is lowercased, it can have a derogatory meaning: to "jew" someone is to be extremely selfish in a financial transaction, tapping into the racist trope that Jews are, as a race, venal and primarily concerned with making money, perhaps taking advantage.
I note that "fag" is not allowed here, even though it can mean "cigarette." So, I see inconsistency in allowing one pejorative term (lowercase "jew") but not another (fag > homosexual).
@lolamoth Actually, "fag" is valid, in the US dictionary at least.
I have spoken to some Jewish people on here about the 'jew' issue, and most of them said if they have the letters they will play 'jew'.
What is more amazing to me is that the N-word is in the US dictionary!
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This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.
@zoso-thezephead Where to start, and where will it end.
I think more likely that the word in the current climate would be removed because it is offensive to most of the world who has predominantly sided with Palestine. -
This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.
Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!
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Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!
@roymccoy you do not have to use any of those words it is a choice you make. You also do not have to play those with a vocabulary that is that limited
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Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!
@roymccoy I think you are missing the spirit of the game.
It has never been about word quality, judgement or semantics.
it is based purely on word lists, we have words in our language/s that are not nice ones, but they are there. Excluding and censoring then MAKES the game about more than words, and that has never been the game I want to play.
I play with no intent or malice or subtext. I play for fun.
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@roymccoy you do not have to use any of those words it is a choice you make. You also do not have to play those with a vocabulary that is that limited
@betterlate1-0
My sarcasm was apparently too subtle for you. To my knowledge Lexulous doesn't make or maintain the dictionaries it uses, and I'm surprised not to have seen that mentioned. Or, actually, I'm not surprised, since I didn't read the other replies. -
@roymccoy I think you are missing the spirit of the game.
It has never been about word quality, judgement or semantics.
it is based purely on word lists, we have words in our language/s that are not nice ones, but they are there. Excluding and censoring then MAKES the game about more than words, and that has never been the game I want to play.
I play with no intent or malice or subtext. I play for fun.
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@roymccoy hi, yeah I kinda wondered, im the one that should be sorry. you just never know in this place
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@betterlate1-0
My sarcasm was apparently too subtle for you. To my knowledge Lexulous doesn't make or maintain the dictionaries it uses, and I'm surprised not to have seen that mentioned. Or, actually, I'm not surprised, since I didn't read the other replies.@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insult -
@roymccoy reminds me of someone tells a joke and no one laughs. I find jew very offensive a long with other words, but sometimes I use it. There is no law that says I have to play any that uses offensive words. Do not think for me and do not expect anyone to rewrite the dictionary for anyone else just all should be selective in who they play. There are people i will not play because they think certain 4 letter words are just fine. To me
using some of these words show ignorance, lack of respect and a lack of vocab why play them? As for
someone else here, goy is not an insult, just means not Jewish. jew is intended to be an insult -
Are you all serious?
I'm a jew. And a Jew, and am Jewish.
I have no problem being a jew.
And have no problem being called a jew, as you can see, I call myself a jew.
I don't find it derogatory in any way whatsoever, and think this entire conversation is ridiculous, sorry.
The world is out of control with "political correctness" lately. Every time I turn around, it's something new that has now been deemed "offensive" for whatever reason. It's like people sit around & think of new ways to get offended, because being offended by something is the new "in" thing.
ANYTHING can be used in a derogatory manner.
But by your logic, "Jew" is okay, "jew" is not.
So how do you convey that in a verbal conversation?
You referred to yourself as a "Jew". So if you're having a verbal conversation with someone, you would verbally say "I am a capital J Jew" - just so they were clear you weren't saying you were a "lowercase j jew"?
So you'd have no problem with someone calling you a Jew, as long as they said "hey you capital letter J Jew". Just to be CLEAR.
Sorry - but lmjaoI could say I find it offensive that you get to speak for people you don't even know, "I will keep this simple. As a Jew the word is offensive to myself and other Jews. Clear?"
How do you know what is offensive to other Jews, jews, or Jewish people?
Do you know them all?
Have you polled the ones that you do know, and asked them if this specifically offends them?
So I am to assume that if someone plays the word jew, it would offend you? What would be the reason that would offend you?
Because you feel that they are not just using the letters in a word GAME, but using this medium an excuse to call you a swindler?So if someone plays the word "bitch", should I immediately be offended & assume that they are calling me a bitch? Even though the only actual definition in the dictionary is that of a female dog? The other definitions are "slang", but derogatory.
So as a woman, should I demand bitch be removed from the game?
Well heck, while we're at it - how about if someone plays the word "colored" which literally means something that has color, but can also have derogatory meanings. Should we have them remove that word as well, because it might be offensive to black people?
We could go on with this forever, until there are what, 100 words left? (until someone steps up & says one offends them, then 99)But what if - and just a what if - a person playing the GAME has those letters in their tray, and plays them just to PLAY them & gain points (which is ultimately the objective I believe). I don't think they chose those letters to deliberately insult the other player.
If you had 3 letters left in your tray, "j" "e" "w", and you could place them just right, with triple letters, a triple word, making 3 more words & would get like 125 points for "jew", or you could just play "ew" for 6, you can say with 100% honesty, that you'd play the 6, just not to use a lowercase word "jew" in a word GAME?
OMG - seriously, think about it. This is a GAME.
If you don't like it, guess what - you don't have to play it.@sanctuarie You are Jewish and a Jew .if you are a cheapskate and want to demean yourself or others you say jew
