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  • S sanctuarie

    @betterlate1

    as a Jew your attitude and accusations offended me

    Of course it did, I would expect nothing less. (I can't imagine much of anything I could say that would not, regardless of the content)

    I never said you asked to remove the word. I posted in this forum in response to the first post, not to you.
    You however, provided quite a lengthy response, to something that was not posted to you.
    My second post however was in direct response to your post to me. The foreskin comment I know was zoso, but just merely pointed out to you that I am without, as you were in a conversation with him about me.

    I was not accusatory, but whatever. You can believe what you wish, I have no desire to continue to defend my words, it's going nowhere. I have my beliefs and you have yours, let's leave it at that, shall we?

    Or if it makes you feel better, let's just say "You win betterlate1".
    Congratulations sir, well done.

    Have a wonderful day!

    😉

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    betterlate1
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    @sanctuarie whatever you say

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    • S sanctuarie

      Are you all serious?
      I'm a jew. And a Jew, and am Jewish.
      I have no problem being a jew.
      And have no problem being called a jew, as you can see, I call myself a jew.
      I don't find it derogatory in any way whatsoever, and think this entire conversation is ridiculous, sorry.
      The world is out of control with "political correctness" lately. Every time I turn around, it's something new that has now been deemed "offensive" for whatever reason. It's like people sit around & think of new ways to get offended, because being offended by something is the new "in" thing.
      ANYTHING can be used in a derogatory manner.
      But by your logic, "Jew" is okay, "jew" is not.
      So how do you convey that in a verbal conversation?
      You referred to yourself as a "Jew". So if you're having a verbal conversation with someone, you would verbally say "I am a capital J Jew" - just so they were clear you weren't saying you were a "lowercase j jew"?
      So you'd have no problem with someone calling you a Jew, as long as they said "hey you capital letter J Jew". Just to be CLEAR.
      Sorry - but lmjao

      I could say I find it offensive that you get to speak for people you don't even know, "I will keep this simple. As a Jew the word is offensive to myself and other Jews. Clear?"
      How do you know what is offensive to other Jews, jews, or Jewish people?
      Do you know them all?
      Have you polled the ones that you do know, and asked them if this specifically offends them?
      So I am to assume that if someone plays the word jew, it would offend you? What would be the reason that would offend you?
      Because you feel that they are not just using the letters in a word GAME, but using this medium an excuse to call you a swindler?

      So if someone plays the word "bitch", should I immediately be offended & assume that they are calling me a bitch? Even though the only actual definition in the dictionary is that of a female dog? The other definitions are "slang", but derogatory.
      So as a woman, should I demand bitch be removed from the game?
      Well heck, while we're at it - how about if someone plays the word "colored" which literally means something that has color, but can also have derogatory meanings. Should we have them remove that word as well, because it might be offensive to black people?
      We could go on with this forever, until there are what, 100 words left? (until someone steps up & says one offends them, then 99)

      But what if - and just a what if - a person playing the GAME has those letters in their tray, and plays them just to PLAY them & gain points (which is ultimately the objective I believe). I don't think they chose those letters to deliberately insult the other player.
      If you had 3 letters left in your tray, "j" "e" "w", and you could place them just right, with triple letters, a triple word, making 3 more words & would get like 125 points for "jew", or you could just play "ew" for 6, you can say with 100% honesty, that you'd play the 6, just not to use a lowercase word "jew" in a word GAME?
      OMG - seriously, think about it. This is a GAME.
      If you don't like it, guess what - you don't have to play it.

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      Una Ni Mhathuna
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      Thank god for common sense

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      • zoso thezepheadZ zoso thezephead

        This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.

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        Sanjeeda Khatoon
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        @zoso-thezephead I am sorry .I didn't mean that.Actuallay my native language is not English.One of the reason why I paly this game ??? I think this is a good channel to improve my vocabulary .Thanks for the correction.I will never use this word again.

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          EmbraceableEwe
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          Are we planning to ask for ALL derogatory words to be removed? How about commonly used profanity?

          The set of words allowed in word games is normally a list of words that exist in the language, not a list of only the good and uplifting words.

          I'm not arguing that anyone should use the verb form of "jew" in speech in polite society, but I expect all valid English words to show up in the game. That includes words that are derogatory or profane.

          Not that it matters, but I am a capital-J Jew myself, and I've used the word in Lexulous. Not to endorse its use, but because I had the letters and it fit the game board.

          Oversensitive political correctness is getting out of hand.

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          • EmbraceableEweE EmbraceableEwe

            Are we planning to ask for ALL derogatory words to be removed? How about commonly used profanity?

            The set of words allowed in word games is normally a list of words that exist in the language, not a list of only the good and uplifting words.

            I'm not arguing that anyone should use the verb form of "jew" in speech in polite society, but I expect all valid English words to show up in the game. That includes words that are derogatory or profane.

            Not that it matters, but I am a capital-J Jew myself, and I've used the word in Lexulous. Not to endorse its use, but because I had the letters and it fit the game board.

            Oversensitive political correctness is getting out of hand.

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            betterlate1
            wrote on last edited by betterlate1
            #58

            @EmbraceableEwe Being Jewish ...I also find the word jew offensive but then there are a lot of words that are offensive. Nice thing is no one has to use any word. It is all choices. Nothing wrong with being politically correct..or considering others point of view either..

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                #60

                It's true that OP is referring to the usage as a verb which is rightly deemed an ethnic slur by many. We must think about the integrity of the site though. Lexulous uses the official tournament and club word lists used in competitive Scrabble, not the filtered versions. Therefore, many words considered offensive are permissible. To take the matter further, those with issues or concerns should contact the official bodies who compile those lists. Dictionaries and word lists are meant to be comprehensive. That's the point. They contain the good, the bad and the ugly.

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                • zoso thezepheadZ zoso thezephead

                  This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.

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                  @zoso-thezephead

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                    b birney
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                    I have played this word, albeit with some discomfort considering my family tree. Seeing this Topic in the Forum, I decided to look it up in the dictionary. Although it can be used pejoratively, if you look it up in Merriam-Webster you will see four definitions, none pejorative. So, use it in good health, just nonpejoratively! 😉

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                    • b birneyB b birney

                      I have played this word, albeit with some discomfort considering my family tree. Seeing this Topic in the Forum, I decided to look it up in the dictionary. Although it can be used pejoratively, if you look it up in Merriam-Webster you will see four definitions, none pejorative. So, use it in good health, just nonpejoratively! 😉

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                      betterlate1
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                      @b-birney you cant remove thousands of years of it being a derogatory word and used in a derogatory manner ...even if remove it from the dictionary

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                      • zoso thezepheadZ zoso thezephead

                        @jsm said in Please remove the word 'jew':

                        It is a simple noun - a person who is Jewish is a Jew. I don't think it is inherently derogatory although used that way by some.
                        Lots of words that are used derogatorily are in Lex (SOWPODS). I agree it feels weird to play them, but - it's a word game.

                        Your description makes it a pronoun. Following your logic I should then be able to play Christian, Hindu or Muslim. Note the words all start with a capital letter.

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                        lolamoth
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                        @zoso-thezephead That's true. When the word is lowercased, it can have a derogatory meaning: to "jew" someone is to be extremely selfish in a financial transaction, tapping into the racist trope that Jews are, as a race, venal and primarily concerned with making money, perhaps taking advantage.

                        I note that "fag" is not allowed here, even though it can mean "cigarette." So, I see inconsistency in allowing one pejorative term (lowercase "jew") but not another (fag > homosexual).

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                        • lexulousL lexulous

                          You may use this topic for recommending words to be added/removed from the Lexulous Word Lists.

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                          John S
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                          @lexulous Please consider the nice valid word DZO

                          (Dzo - Wikipedia)

                          "A dzo (Tibetan ā―˜ā―›ā―žāž‹ mdzo) (also spelled zo, zho and dzho) is a hybrid between the yak and domestic cattle."

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                          • Roslyn IrvineR Roslyn Irvine

                            Pix is acceptable (for pictures), but vax is not acceptable for vaccine, not tix for tickets. This is not consistent.

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                            MapmakerE
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                            @roslyn-irvine Vax, Pix, and TIx all work in the UK dictionary here.

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                            • Roslyn IrvineR Roslyn Irvine

                              Pix is acceptable (for pictures), but vax is not acceptable for vaccine, not tix for tickets. This is not consistent.

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                              @roslyn-irvine Hi, depends which version of the dictionary you are using and which version of the game as to what is good or not

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                              • L lolamoth

                                @zoso-thezephead That's true. When the word is lowercased, it can have a derogatory meaning: to "jew" someone is to be extremely selfish in a financial transaction, tapping into the racist trope that Jews are, as a race, venal and primarily concerned with making money, perhaps taking advantage.

                                I note that "fag" is not allowed here, even though it can mean "cigarette." So, I see inconsistency in allowing one pejorative term (lowercase "jew") but not another (fag > homosexual).

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                                Mistertoad
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                                @lolamoth
                                As a 'goy' (perjoritive?!) myself, I found this excellent article from a site described as "Jewish. Fearless. Since 1897", thus:
                                https://forward.com/life/380684/goyim-origin-goy-usage/

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                                • L lolamoth

                                  @zoso-thezephead That's true. When the word is lowercased, it can have a derogatory meaning: to "jew" someone is to be extremely selfish in a financial transaction, tapping into the racist trope that Jews are, as a race, venal and primarily concerned with making money, perhaps taking advantage.

                                  I note that "fag" is not allowed here, even though it can mean "cigarette." So, I see inconsistency in allowing one pejorative term (lowercase "jew") but not another (fag > homosexual).

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                                  zaph
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                                  @lolamoth Actually, "fag" is valid, in the US dictionary at least.

                                  I have spoken to some Jewish people on here about the 'jew' issue, and most of them said if they have the letters they will play 'jew'.

                                  What is more amazing to me is that the N-word is in the US dictionary!

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                                  • zoso thezepheadZ zoso thezephead

                                    This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.

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                                    A Former User
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                                    @zoso-thezephead Where to start, and where will it end.
                                    I think more likely that the word in the current climate would be removed because it is offensive to most of the world who has predominantly sided with Palestine.

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                                      jrp32
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                                      maybe people should look up the definition of "OFAY" which is also valid.

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                                      • zoso thezepheadZ zoso thezephead

                                        This is a pejorative verb that is offensive to Jewish people and, intentionally or not, infers Jewish people are swindlers.

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                                        roymccoy
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                                        @zoso-thezephead

                                        Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!

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                                        • R roymccoy

                                          @zoso-thezephead

                                          Yes, and honky, wop, spic, nigger and wetback, please. Plus I'm sure there are lots of others. I'm all for correctness, and I'm sure there are many words that have to go. Thank you Lexulous for policing the language!

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                                          A Former User
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                                          @roymccoy you do not have to use any of those words it is a choice you make. You also do not have to play those with a vocabulary that is that limited

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