Recommend addition/removal of words
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I support 'marc-krizack' in his request for 'paydirt' to be included. We discussed the issues in the post labelled 'Good words not accepted'.
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It might sound like a single word in conversation, but it's clearly two separate words: 'pay dirt'. This is why no major dictionary includes it. It shouldn't be added.
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Zshouldbe8replied to A Former User on 3 Nov 2021, 11:09 last edited by Zshouldbe8 11 Mar 2021, 11:13
@dan is basically correct. Only one major dictionary, the Merriam-Webster Online, mentions paydirt as one word, and it is given as an alternate version to the entry pay dirt.
Also, paydirt as a single word is not in the US or the UK Official Scrabble Player's Dictionary (not that they have any bearing on Lexulous...).
Sorry; that seems to be one good Bingo lost.
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@dan
Certainly 'pay dirt' should not be added. The consensus so far is that Merriam-Webster is a major dictionary and, as such, I think we should certainly consider 'paydirt' as a possible addition to the Lexulous dictionary. -
I'm confused by the continuation of this thread and seek a definitive clarification. Is it not true that Lexulous uses two Scrabble dictionaries, over the content of which Lexulous has no influence? This may already have been established and I think it has, but in that case the continuing discussion of which words are to be included or not doesn't make any practical sense. Thank you.
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@dan said in Recommend addition/removal of words:
It might sound like a single word in conversation, but it's clearly two separate words: 'pay dirt'. This is why no major dictionary includes it. It shouldn't be added.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVtZkyBTabQ
It's not just in conversation, and it isn't at all clear that pay dirt absolutely has to be two separate words. Dictionaries are not infallible, and they aren't in this case if they don't list both forms. Google indicates (though unfortunately it doesn't "show" or "give" – God bless the marvelous censors of our current totalitarian technocracy) 1,010,000 finds for "paydirt", which quite establishes it as a legitimate form in common literary use. I don't recall ever even having seen "pay dirt" as two separate words, though I now find it in files on my computer disk in a number comparable to that of "paydirt".
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@carolyn-leverich-atkinson all words evolve from some language but it depends on whether used in the dictionary used here
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Forum helpline suggested posting words unrecognised in Lexulous here which are definitely in normal dictionaries. Very disappointed to have taoiseach rejected, and on a triple word!
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A Former Userreplied to jpcoh1 on 8 Dec 2021, 11:12 last edited by A Former User 12 Aug 2021, 11:14
@jpcoh1 Pretty sure 'Taoiseach' is a proper noun and always capitalized. Are you new to Scrabble/Lex rules?
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@dan
To taoiseach his own. -
@dan I don't see why it should be treated as a proper noun, any more than another title such as president or prime minister. Presumably it was rejected as "foreign" (though I will admit many Welsh/Irish/Scots/Gaelic and other words are frequently accepted).
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A Former Userreplied to ThatGuyThere202 on 8 Dec 2021, 18:09 last edited by A Former User 12 Aug 2021, 18:44
@thatguythere202 Fair point. Could well be because it's an Irish language word. Congrats to those who can spell it correctly without checking first. BTW, it's pronounced 'teashock' for those interested.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/taoiseach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoiseach#Origins_and_etymology
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@dan is proper noun you are so correct and it means the leader of the country in Ireland. Bet you know that though.
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@betterlate1-0 Yes, in an English language context, it's always the 'Taoiseach' and refers specifically to the Irish leader. Lower case 'taoiseach' would be acceptable if we were playing in Irish/Gaelic.
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the word overo is not accepted. It is a colour of horse. Google it and you will see a long discussion on wikipedia. Thanks
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@marymwalker the word overo is a word not sure if proper noun or not but if not in the dictionary used by the site..not usable. Can you imagine how many more words would be added if every proper noun that some use is termed acceptable? Slang? etc etc. They would spend their lives adding words that might or might not be words.
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It is not a proper noun. It is no more foreign than pinto. There are many words that relate to professions, sports etc that appear esoteric but that does not negate their validity in the dictionary.
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@lexulous
I would like to see the "word" WOMANS removed. The plural of WOMAN is WOMEN or so I believe. -
@marymwalker It's a lovely word and seems pretty widely used in horsing circles along with a few similar Spanish ones such as tobiano and sabino. I think that's the problem. The words are too on the Spanish side, and their usage is too niche to have entered the regular English language dictionaries.
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@jrp32 i have never used that or a couple others. Win or lose I wont use those words..but that is me. Just saw this post why not just learn more words?