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    • Ann Mills
      Ann Mills last edited by

      Tried to use word BIGA, and a pop-up says it wasn't a legal word in America.
      I found it on 3 dictionary sites.
      https://www.thefreedictionary.com/biga
      https://www.dictionary.com/browse/biga
      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/biga

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        A Former User last edited by A Former User

        @ann-mills You're looking at the wrong dictionaries. Tournament Scrabble uses two separate English dictionaries or 'word lists'. I believe Lexulous uses these as well. Their names have changed a few times so it's sometimes a little confusing. Wikipedia has up to date info.

        The USA and Canada use this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASPA_Word_List (BIGA and its plural form BIGAE are not included)

        The UK and the rest of the world use this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins_Scrabble_Words (BIGA and BIGAE are both valid)

        I've also noticed that a lot of Canadians like to use the UK dictionary. I personally enjoy US and UK games so use both. You'll generally find that everything that's included in the US dictionary is also valid in the UK one, but certainly not the other way round.

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          jrp32 @Guest last edited by jrp32

          @dan-mitchell, I think that the CSW19(Collin's Scrabble Words) is filled with contrived words and words that were originally not in SOWPODS because it claimed to forbid words by shortening, acronyms and slang and did a reasonable, if not complete, job of that. By contrived words, i mean words that are "made up" with the sole purpose of advancing play in word games. Where ZEN used to be used as an example of what were not playable words in SOWPODS, it is now a part of CSW19. ZE was recently added to CSW19 and I feel it is a just a matter of time before we see a two letter "V" word. Too many words of CSW19, show in the Collin's dictionary as "no definition
          found".
          I am still back with the TWL98+(and previous and successive issues of TWL --"The Word List") for US Scrabble and SOWPODS for British tournament play.

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            A Former User @jrp32 last edited by

            @jrp32 OSPD
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Scrabble_Players_Dictionary

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              A Former User @Guest last edited by

              @betterlate1-0 latest edition OSPD if interested

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                A Former User @Guest last edited by

                @betterlate1-0 almost forgot 300 new words

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                  MapmakerE @Guest last edited by

                  @betterlate1-0 That happened in Sept 2018 with OSPD 6.

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                    A Former User @MapmakerE last edited by

                    @mapmakere and your point?

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                      MapmakerE @Guest last edited by

                      @betterlate1-0 That it's not new information.

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                        A Former User @MapmakerE last edited by

                        @mapmakere never said it was..just gave where they could see all at one time gees when do you stop? i cant ever be as perfect as you lol

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                          flea10009 @jrp32 last edited by

                          @jrp32 I'd love a 2-letter v-word. 🙂

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                            jrp32 @flea10009 last edited by

                            @flea10009 LOL! If you search out the definition of the new 2-letter "Z" word, "ZE". you will get a laugh at how ridiculous and illogical The Official Word List (currently CSW19, for LEX, I believe) has become. I suggest that the new 2 letter V word will be "VA" with some faux intellectual explanation that it is a particle of "VA VA VOOM".

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                              ThatGuyThere202 @jrp32 last edited by

                              @jrp32 so... ZE is apparently acceptable in the UK list at the moment (but not in the US list)? Thanks, that adds to my list of reasons for preferring US... although the US list also has its problems (what makes "ok") an acceptable word, for instance!?).

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                                jrp32 @ThatGuyThere202 last edited by

                                @thatguythere202, the silliness of "OK" being considered a valid word is indicative of the whole mess. I started playing the UK wordlist, (CSW19) currently, out of frustration. There were too many words that went against the stated principles of what a scrabble dictionary word should be for me to take it seriously as i used to. There used to be a few that should not have been there, IN MY OPINION --like JATO and RATO --those are acronyms, i don't care how you cut it, and TRANQ, that is tranquilizer by shortening and a few more were there in 1998 (TWL98 time in the US) and SOWPODS (an acronym made from OSPD and OWL [but where is the "L"?]) in the UK and a lot of the rest of the English Speaking world.
                                Now, i am sure you found that Collin's (The C of CSW19) defines "ZE" as indicative of a foreign accent, usually French, as in "go to ze store". "OK" is an abbreviation of "Oll Korrect" an early American saying.
                                So, up until a few years ago, they mostly stayed with their guidelines, then the guidelines were thrown out the window...............
                                Anyway, these days, i use all of those i mentioned whereas i used to avoid doing so out of principle.

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                                  MapmakerE @jrp32 last edited by

                                  @jrp32 I play UK and use them all but not the slurs.

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                                    algor @MapmakerE last edited by

                                    @mapmakere, Deciding which words constitute "slurs" is a complicated "slippery slope". Consider the words gyp, negro, gook, and chink. Which, if any, are slurs that you would not play in the game?

                                    Much simpler and consistent to just think of them as the sequences of letters that are allowed in the word game, and avoid making value judgments that will inevitably be inconsistent.

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                                      MapmakerE @algor last edited by

                                      @algor The first and third I wouldn't use; the other two are actual words which aren't (always) slurs. It's a personal line I don't like to cross. A chacune son goût.

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